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What 's max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit

What 's max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit

2004-06-08       - By Mark W. Farnham
Reply:     1     2     3     4  

Ah. Unfortunately that limit is compiled in and shipped for a given
OS/release. I do not believe that you can change it. I have not checked on
the availability of a "large memory model " release for that port, nor am I
sure they bump sort area size max above 2G even for a "large memory model "
port.

mwf
-- --Original Message-- --
From: oracle-l-bounce@(protected)
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)]On Behalf Of Wolfson Larry - lwolfs
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:33 PM
To: 'oracle-l@(protected) '
Subject: RE: What 's max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit


Mark,Niall, Thanks for input. What I 'm asking is what parameter sets
the limit and how can I raise the bar.
Just thought on 64 bit OS it could be higher than 2G.

From my TAR:

Hi,
The Sort_area_size minimum value is equivalent of six database blocks and
the maximum is OS dependent. This has been documented in NOTE:30918.1.(see
below)

Pls let us know if you have tried setting the PGA_AGGREGATE_TARGET instead
of setting
sort_area_size.

There are some known issues like dynamically changing the parameters
sort_area_size, hash_area_size ...failing with ORA-68 (See ORA-68.ora-code.com).

For example:
SQL > alter session set sort_area_size=2097152;
ERROR:
ORA-68 (See ORA-68.ora-code.com): invalid value 2097152 for parameter sort_area_size


SQL > alter session set hash_area_size=2097152;
ERROR:
ORA-68 (See ORA-68.ora-code.com): invalid value 2097152 for parameter hash_area_size ...

The range of values are different.
In most of the times restarting the database resolved the
issue.(???????????????)

The reason could be that the range of these parameters are stored in SGA,
for some reason SGA corrupted/defective where range is stored. Afraid! so
bounce of the database should solve it.

Thanks XXXXXXX
Parameter type Integer

Default value 65536

Parameter class Dynamic: ALTER SESSION, ALTER SYSTEM ... DEFERRED

Range of values Minimum: the value equivalent of six database
blocks

Maximum: operating system-dependent (WHAT PARM?)

-- --Original Message-- --
From: oracle-l-bounce@(protected)
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)]On Behalf Of Mark W. Farnham
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:03 AM
To: oracle-l@(protected)
Subject: RE: What 's max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit


I think I see 2G-1 in the error message. Is that the limit you were
looking for?
-- --Original Message-- --
From: oracle-l-bounce@(protected)
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)]On Behalf Of Wolfson Larry - lwolfs
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:57 AM
To: oracle-l@(protected)
Subject: What 's max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit


I 've 3-4 servers with 16-26G of memory, that I thought I could use for
some large sorts we 're running at night.

I got back
06:24:20 LNW >ALTER SESSION SET SORT_AREA_SIZE =3147483647;
ERROR: ORA-00068 (See ORA-00068.ora-code.com): invalid value 3147483647 for parameter
sort_area_size, must be
between 0 and 2147483647

Opened a TAR and OS said it was OS dependent. I asked what limit was
and he said he didn 't have that info, BUT, if I re-started DB the problem
should go away... I was hoping for a more concrete answer. And TAR still
hasn 't been updated although I did get phone call.



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<DIV > <SPAN class=306450420-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >Ah. Unfortunately that limit is
compiled in and shipped for a given OS/release. I do not believe that you can
change it. I have not checked on the availability of a "large memory model "
release for that port, nor am I sure they bump sort area size max above 2G even
for a "large memory model " port. </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=306450420-08062004 > <FONT size=2 > </FONT > </SPAN >  </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=306450420-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >mwf </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
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size=2 >-- --Original Message-- -- <BR > <B >From: </B >
oracle-l-bounce@(protected) [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)] <B >On
Behalf Of </B >Wolfson Larry - lwolfs <BR > <B >Sent: </B > Tuesday, June 08, 2004
2:33 PM <BR > <B >To: </B > 'oracle-l@(protected) ' <BR > <B >Subject: </B > RE: What 's
max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit <BR > <BR > </FONT > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=740412118-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >Mark,Niall,  Thanks for
input.    What I 'm asking is what parameter sets the limit
and how can I raise the bar. </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=740412118-08062004 >    <FONT size=2 >Just
thought on 64 bit OS it could be higher than 2G. </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=740412118-08062004 > <FONT size=2 > </FONT > </SPAN >  </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=740412118-08062004 >    <FONT size=2 >From my
TAR: </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=740412118-08062004 > <FONT size=2 > </FONT > </SPAN >  </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=740412118-08062004 > <FONT size=2 > <FONT size=3 >Hi, <BR >The
Sort_area_size minimum value is equivalent of six database blocks and <BR >the
maximum is OS dependent. This has been documented in NOTE:30918.1 </FONT > <FONT
size=3 > <STRONG >.(see below) <BR > </STRONG > <BR >Pls let us know if you have tried
setting the PGA_AGGREGATE_TARGET instead of setting <BR >sort_area_size.
<BR > <BR >There are some known issues like dynamically changing the parameters
sort_area_size, hash_area_size ...failing with ORA-68 (See ORA-68.ora-code.com). <BR > <BR >For
example: <BR >SQL> alter session set
sort_area_size=2097152; <BR >ERROR: <BR >ORA-68 (See ORA-68.ora-code.com): invalid value 2097152 for
parameter sort_area_size <BR > <BR > <BR >SQL> alter session set
hash_area_size=2097152; <BR >ERROR: <BR >ORA-68 (See ORA-68.ora-code.com): invalid value 2097152 for
parameter hash_area_size ... <BR > <BR >The range of values are different. <BR >In
most of the times restarting the database resolved the issue </FONT > <FONT
size=3 > <STRONG >.(???????????????) <BR > </STRONG > <BR >The reason could be that the
range of these parameters are stored in SGA, for some reason SGA
corrupted/defective where range is stored.  Afraid! so bounce of the
database should solve it. <BR > <BR >Thanks   </FONT > <FONT
size=2 >XXXXXXX </FONT >
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<TD class=Informal > <A name=944611 > </A > <FONT
face= "Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif " > <STRONG >Parameter
type </STRONG > </FONT >  </TD >
<TD class=Informal > <A name=944613 > </A >
<P class=TB >Integer  </P > </TD > </TR >
<TR class=Informal vAlign=top align=left >
<TD class=Informal > <A name=944615 > </A > <FONT
face= "Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif " > <STRONG >Default
value </STRONG > </FONT >  </TD >
<TD class=Informal > <A name=944617 > </A >
<P class=TB > <CODE >65536 </CODE >  </P > </TD > </TR >
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<TD class=Informal > <A name=944619 > </A > <FONT
face= "Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif " > <STRONG >Parameter
class </STRONG > </FONT >  </TD >
<TD class=Informal > <A name=944621 > </A >
<P class=TB >Dynamic: <CODE >ALTER SESSION </CODE >, <CODE >ALTER SYSTEM ...
DEFERRED </CODE >  </P > </TD > </TR >
<TR class=Informal vAlign=top align=left >
<TD class=Informal > <A name=944623 > </A > <STRONG >Range of
values </STRONG >  </TD >
<TD class=Informal > <A name=944625 > </A >
<P class=TB >Minimum: the value equivalent of six database blocks <A
name=944626 > </A >
<P class=TB >Maximum: operating system-dependent  <SPAN
class=740412118-08062004 > <STRONG >(WHAT
PARM?) </STRONG > </SPAN > </P > </TD > </TR > </TBODY > </TABLE > <FONT face=Tahoma
size=2 >-- --Original Message-- -- </FONT > </DIV > </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <FONT face=Tahoma size=2 > <B >From: </B > oracle-l-bounce@(protected)
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)] <B >On Behalf Of </B >Mark W.
Farnham <BR > <B >Sent: </B > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:03 AM <BR > <B >To: </B >
oracle-l@(protected) <BR > <B >Subject: </B > RE: What 's max sort_area_size? SUN
64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64 bit <BR > <BR > </FONT > </DIV >
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<DIV > <SPAN class=316040211-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >I think I see 2G-1 in the
error message. Is that the limit you were looking for? </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<BLOCKQUOTE >
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left > <FONT face=Tahoma
size=2 >-- --Original Message-- -- <BR > <B >From: </B >
oracle-l-bounce@(protected) [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@(protected)] <B >On
Behalf Of </B >Wolfson Larry - lwolfs <BR > <B >Sent: </B > Tuesday, June 08,
2004 3:57 AM <BR > <B >To: </B > oracle-l@(protected) <BR > <B >Subject: </B >
What 's max sort_area_size? SUN 64 bit O 9.2.0.4 64
bit <BR > <BR > </FONT > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=687244907-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >I 've 3-4 servers with
16-26G of memory, that I thought I could use for some large sorts we 're
running at night. </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=687244907-08062004 > <FONT
size=2 > </FONT > </SPAN >  </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=687244907-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >I got back
</FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=687244907-08062004 >06:24:20 LNW>ALTER SESSION SET
SORT_AREA_SIZE =3147483647; <BR >ERROR: ORA-00068 (See ORA-00068.ora-code.com): invalid value 3147483647
for parameter sort_area_size, must be <BR >between 0 and
2147483647 </SPAN > </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=687244907-08062004 > </SPAN >  </DIV >
<DIV > <SPAN class=687244907-08062004 > <FONT size=2 >Opened a TAR and OS said
it was OS dependent.  I asked what limit was and he said he didn 't
have that info, BUT, if I re-started DB the problem should go
away...   I was hoping for a more concrete answer.  And TAR
still hasn 't been updated although I did get phone
call. </FONT > </SPAN > </DIV >
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